Good News and Bad News

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As you may know, the last couple of weeks have been quite hectic here at Samurai HQ.

We’ve had a number of issues with our back end server system, resulting in longer processing time on some Market Samurai functions, and a few functions being periodically unavailable.

A new update from Google at the end of last week has had some good and bad effects.

The bad news.

Unfortunately, due to new rate-limiting that Google are performing, it’s no longer possible to successfully generate SEOTC or SEOUC data. When Market Samurai tries to generate this data it is quickly issued with a CAPTCHA.

With the number of CAPTCHAs that each SEOTC/SEOUC search would generate for a list of keywords it’s not possible to pass the CAPTCHAs through to the user, and as such we will be temporarily retiring the SEOTC and SEOUC metrics.

We are exploring a number of options to ensure Market Samurai continues to provide you with the best and most accurate data possible, including:

Sourcing new SEOTC and SEOUC data via Bing

As the second largest search engine in the world, Bing also provides highly accurate and trustworthy SEO data, which we may use as a replacement for Google data. At present this is looking like the best alternative and we are currently investigating how to make the switch.

Changing method used to gather data from Google

By improving our data gathering methods, and removing some existing inefficiencies, it may be possible to bring the metrics back in their current form. We have started to explore this option already, but so far without success.

And now for the Good news!

There is a large upside to the temporary removal of these metrics. The rate limiting that was occurring when these metrics were gathered was also affecting other aspects of Market Samurai, degrading processing time across the board.

Now that they have been removed, a portion of the persistent load on our servers will also be removed. The upshot is improved performance on all tasks that run through our back end servers.

What this means, in real terms, is improved speed and reliability for the Keyword Research, SEO Competition and Rank Tracker modules.

Warm regards,

Alex Green

Alex "The Green Samurai" Green is a member of your friendly Samurai support team, and frequently provides updates on the latest Samurai happenings on the blog.

Alex has written 22 post(s) for Noble Samurai

23 Responses to “Good News and Bad News”

  1. I think we’ll be alright without SEOUC and SEOTC for a while. But it is ineresting to consider Bing. I haven’t heard of Bing in quite some time… It might be a brilliant move for Bing to be a data source to the internet marketers.
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  2. As always, thanks for keeping us updated.
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  3. Hi Guys,
    Keep up the good work.My only concern is that
    you seem to be too reliant on Google’s systems for Market Samurai.

    Sure they are the market leaders in keyword research , etc., but they are definitely not the best .

    I have recently heard( and you may have too) that there’s a new kid on the block in utililizing
    Keyword research that uses a different computer codes to generate accurate results than Google’s
    It’s still in the beta stage , but it offers 1 to 14 days accuracy in keywords that people are using.

    Surely that needs further investigation into this & possible integration into Market Samurai if your findings are positive-does it not?

    As i’m not a spokesman for the website that I’ve
    been talking about & I believe you must have heard of them, I’ll refrain from promoting their name- unless asked.

    I truly believe this will only enhance the software
    and make it more independent from

  4. 4

    Well I think this is very bad news as the SEOTCR filter was one of my most important evaluators. Do you have any suggestions as to work arounds?

  5. This answers my previous questions and frustrations. Thank you Alex.

  6. 6

    Also SEOC/SEOLC became highly inaccurate with international searches. So yeah, why not remove those values too?

  7. Thanks Alex.
    I’m still struggling to learn how best to use the program for my keyword research and domain choices, it’s a matter of making dedicated time available – and then remembering what I’ve learnt! So far I’ve not learned it thoroughly and don’t feel happy relying on my findings.
    Are the Training Videos still up to date so that I will be learning the currently applicable methods?
    John Reed, York, UK
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  8. I don’t think Bing can come anywhere near to Big G when it comes to providing accurate SEOTC data.

    See if it is possible to stick to Big G before making that switch.

    btw Thanks for the update.
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  9. Thanks for all your continued help! As long as the major searches continue to be run through Google, as Brian mentioned above, I will continue to be as happy with MS as I always have been.

    Thanks again for all your hard work and vigilance!
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  10. I knew that with the changes that Yahoo and Bing are making that it would cause some problems for Market Samurai. I hate to lose any of the info that Market Samurai has been providing us and I hope you find ways to get this info back. I know the Market Samurai team will work hard at doing that.

  11. You could always use a captcha solving service like decaptcha or deathbycaptcha to do the captchas automatically

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  12. 12
    On March 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 am
    Netbrainiac said:

    Darn google. I am sooo sick and tired of them rearranging crap. They think it’s for the better but it’s for the worst.

    Martin replied:

    Big G do seem hell bent on becoming a real PITA these past couple of years.
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  13. Its great to see you guy trying to get it right..Google seems like their trying to make it hard on everyone these days..

    “Black Seo Guy “Signing Off”
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  14. So can you let us know if you are planning a method of assessing keyword competition, and what this might look like?

    A keyword tool without decent competition analysis is pretty redundant, as I can generate keywords the same as MS via the Google Keyword Tool. The next step of filtering them using SEOTC etc is vital.

    The good news is therefore not really that good.

  15. No other software on planet earth updates like you guys! You guys rock!

  16. Thanks for the update. Good luck, and keep the faith.

  17. Quick question,

    One of the most important searches to me was URL title competition. I used it successfully compete on long tail keywords. These too have disappeared. Any suggestions about how I now find this information? I’m in development of a new site and this feature is highly important to how I write my content for maximum SEO benefit.
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  18. Well, I guess that things are always changing online. :) Hope that an alternative can be found soon…
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  19. If Bing copies from Google then I guess it will be ok to get data from then :))

    Anyway, these are some hard times for your team, and also for us, your customers. But since I know the value and help I can get from Market Samurai in my work, I will patiently wait for you to find the best solution.
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    Allen Walker @ Internet Marketing replied:

    Yes, it’s definitely not easy to keep updating things day after day. :(

    Hope that things settle down soon so that you guys will start having more time to implement new features instead of working on existing ones. :)

    Great job, and keep up the good work!
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  20. 20

    I think the risk of MS is too depend on Google source. Nowadays, things going dynamic, life like river stream.

    Now, I cannot depend much on Keyword research of MS.
    How the MS team to beat this challenging..

    Anyone know when Adword module being release?

  21. 21

    Some suggestion, why MS think to remove the keyword analysis?
    Why not think out of the box, like set the delay setting to trigger result?

    Any idea from MS Team?